This fascinating interview discusses a larger concept that is turning our whole western conception of everything on it’s head.  Our entire concept of cause and effect, action and reaction in the mind-body/organism-environment relationship may be backwards. Compliments well with Tom Campbell’s theories, that conscious intent is the driver and cause of cellular behaviour, and not the other way around. Such ideas would force us to re-evaluate our unconscious assumptions and patterns at almost every level.  The findings of such re-evaluation from this perspective seem to reveal a great many obvious truths.